Do Grace and a Madrigal have the Same Goal?

Grace Cahill and William McIntyre Seem to Have the Same Goal in Chapter One, Book One

By now, in the time of awaiting the seventh book and to find out what Amy and Dan’s branch is, most people have forgotten all about the events of the first book. However, I have lately started to go through all the books and take notes on anything that could possibly mean anything.

One of the things which I read extremely carefully was the very first thing we read, before we even knew what the names of the main characters were: Book one, chapter one. There we meet Grace, who I consider to be one of the top two most important people in the hunt, if not the most.

I believe that the interactions between Grace and her Madrigal lawyer are a huge clue to the secret.

Did you notice how they seemed to have the same goal:

“And if they don’t succeed…” (McIntyre)

“Then it all collapses. The family, the world, all of it. Five centuries of work will have been for nothing.” (Grace)

It certainly seems that Grace and William have the same goal, and we all know that the lawyer is indeed a Madrigal.

Does this mean that Grace is a Madrigal?

Not necessarily.

I say the above because although it seems extremely likely just from that, not to mention other evidence which I am not going to get into here, that Grace is a Madrigal, there are other explanations.

  1. 1. The Madrigal’s are Masters of Disguise

As pointed out in various places (such as the card pack two handbook and card 72 prestige), the Madrigals impersonate other Cahill’s. It is possible that the real William was replaced by a Madrigal.

However, that seems extremely unlikely because of the fact that there is no proof, which is again the bar that we measure ourselves on here when searching for the clues. Although it may be an attractive idea, the chance of it being likely is, at this point, zero.

  1. 2. It has been said that Grace Did Not Owe Her Allegiance to any One Branch

I cannot remember where, and I am sorry for that and will try to find it, but someone said that Grace choose to not side with any one branch. If that is true in the way that we are interpreting it, then she cannot be a Madrigal.

However, the Madrigals aren’t officially considered a branch, so I’m not sure if that means anything.

There have been rumors that there are good and bad Madrigals, or at least perhaps ones with different views. It is possible that Grace, The Man In Black (Fiske), and William all believe in the goal of the Madrigals, but believe that there is another way to get there.

In the Madrigal Maze game, and other places, it has been said that no one outside of the Madrigals knows their purpose. If that is true, then it would mean that Grace is technically a Madrigal, as said in other places, since she and William have the same goal and in the card pack two booklet, it says:

“I warned Grace she would be punished if she went after the clues. She should have listened.”

It is also possible, though, that Grace was a mix of all three branches, something that I’ll discuss later, which would mean that she technically is part of the Madrigals.

So, what’s your opinion on this?

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Aunt Beatrice’s Detective–The Man In Black?

If you read hear a lot, then you probably know that a lot of my blog posts are things that I’d filed away and was aware of but hadn’t really shared with anyone. With an introduction like that, of course this post is one of those. The subject of this 39 Clues post is who is Aunt Beatrice’s detective?

Remember when in the books, they casually slip away that Aunt Beatrice has hired a detective to find them? Well, I had always thought that it was the Man In Black, otherwise known as Fiske Cahill. I will not get into it here, but a page about why this is so is under construction at the moment. Fiske was the sister of Grace and Beatrice, and he mysteriously disappeared in the 1960’s. He is the Man In Black.

Since the Man In Black is a Madrigal, he would obviously make the perfect detective, especially since he is very closely related to Beatrice. However, I think that she hired a detective of a different purpose; to reach a goal. The goal is not to find Amy and Dan, but we all know from e-mails in our 39 Clues inbox and cards that the Madrigals need the Cahill siblings to follow a certain path. Beatrice might have actually wanted Amy and Dan to go for the hunt, and that is why she provoked them into doing it, although on the outside it looked like she was persuading them not to.

This may or may not be true, but I think that the evidence certainly increases in the following quote for book eight by Gordon Korman (believed to have the title of The Sacred Found, although there is no proof):

“As the race to find the 39 Clues builds to its explosive finish, Amy and Dan must steal a Clue guarded by thousands of the world’s best soldiers. With their enemies closing in, the siblings are separated. Together, they almost have a chance, but alone…Could the search for this Clue spell the end of Amy and Dan? And while they are separated, could their Aunt Beatrice’s detective find them?”

This sounds very flimsy, and there is no grounds that this excerpt is true, although there is a similar one from Amazon, just without the part about the detective. It’s just a guess, although it sounds like it could be likely, or at least something similar.

The Man In Black has had multiple chances to capture them, but it’s obvious that the Madrigals are waiting, from evidence that again, I’ll get into in other places.

There is not sufficient evidence, although it seems the most likely since there really are no other candidates. So, what do you think?

Aunt Beatrice's Detective–The Man In Black?

If you read hear a lot, then you probably know that a lot of my blog posts are things that I’d filed away and was aware of but hadn’t really shared with anyone. With an introduction like that, of course this post is one of those. The subject of this 39 Clues post is who is Aunt Beatrice’s detective?

Remember when in the books, they casually slip away that Aunt Beatrice has hired a detective to find them? Well, I had always thought that it was the Man In Black, otherwise known as Fiske Cahill. I will not get into it here, but a page about why this is so is under construction at the moment. Fiske was the sister of Grace and Beatrice, and he mysteriously disappeared in the 1960’s. He is the Man In Black.

Since the Man In Black is a Madrigal, he would obviously make the perfect detective, especially since he is very closely related to Beatrice. However, I think that she hired a detective of a different purpose; to reach a goal. The goal is not to find Amy and Dan, but we all know from e-mails in our 39 Clues inbox and cards that the Madrigals need the Cahill siblings to follow a certain path. Beatrice might have actually wanted Amy and Dan to go for the hunt, and that is why she provoked them into doing it, although on the outside it looked like she was persuading them not to.

This may or may not be true, but I think that the evidence certainly increases in the following quote for book eight by Gordon Korman (believed to have the title of The Sacred Found, although there is no proof):

“As the race to find the 39 Clues builds to its explosive finish, Amy and Dan must steal a Clue guarded by thousands of the world’s best soldiers. With their enemies closing in, the siblings are separated. Together, they almost have a chance, but alone…Could the search for this Clue spell the end of Amy and Dan? And while they are separated, could their Aunt Beatrice’s detective find them?”

This sounds very flimsy, and there is no grounds that this excerpt is true, although there is a similar one from Amazon, just without the part about the detective. It’s just a guess, although it sounds like it could be likely, or at least something similar.

The Man In Black has had multiple chances to capture them, but it’s obvious that the Madrigals are waiting, from evidence that again, I’ll get into in other places.

There is not sufficient evidence, although it seems the most likely since there really are no other candidates. So, what do you think?

Ian and Natalie Kabra…Impersonated by Madrigals?

I touched on this here, but I think that this is easily important enough to have it’s own post, and probably infinitely more.

What I am proposing here is that there is a strong possibility that Ian and Natalie were impersonated by Madrigals. I have not found anyone who believes this except for me, so this may need more developing:

At the end of book two, Amy and Dan are about to snag a clue when Ian and Natalie roll in to steal the clue. Ian plays the notes on the piano, but he doesn’t know that one of the key’s is bobby-trapped, something that the Cahill siblings learned from their beloved Grandmother Grace.

The piano exploded, and the Kabras were badly injured. They were in very bad shape, certainly not well enough to participate in the deadly hunt. At the time, it was well known that they were out.

However, somehow, people forgot all about it. Sometimes I’ll mention their injury to some fellow clue hunters,  and they had completely forgotten. It’s probably because it was never really mentioned, and it was basically glazed over in book three. I have not forgotten, though, and I have always kept it in mind as I have searched for the clues.

The reason why I haven’t been really paying that much attention to it is because, in my opinion, it really is not that important. I do not care much about Ian and Natalie, as it was released in book six that they had no clues, and I had suspected as much. Therefore, they are not really central to the quest compared to other things.

It has become definite to me that they have been impersonated by Madrigals. We all know that Madrigals impersonate Cahill’s, as shown in various different places which I will not get into on this page, and it is impossible for them to continue after such a bad accident. Have you noticed that Ian and Natalie are not as ruthless and seem nicer in the previous four books than in the first two books? Isn’t also sort of suspicious that they have not really been a threat at all? The Madrigals obviously have a plan that doesn’t involve the Lucian’s getting the clues. It seems almost as if they have been helping Amy and Dan, which I’ll cover more in other posts and pages.

So, what do you think?

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